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Discussion Prompts 2/15

Chapter 18. The Negro Quuestion

p. 373-380 How did Tourgée (as Bystander) end up writing for the Inter Ocean “the Negro Question”?

p. 381-82 What happened to HP Brown pursuit for a U.S. S. Ct. seat?

p. 383-84 How did Tourgée describe Southernism?

p. 384-86 What was Decuir (1878) about?

p. 386-388 What was Mississippi (1890) about?

p. 389. In what context did Tourgée say: “If the Nation is not willing to do justice to the colored man, […] let it at least refrain from doing further injustice?

p. 390-92 Who was the metaphorical patient and doctor at the Mohonk Conference on the Negro Question?

p. 393-94 What did Luisiana do regarding the railroad mandates? What did Martinet do?

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Martinet to Tourgée

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Prompts for Tuesday 2/8

Chapter 17 – The Color Line Sharpens (1883-1888)

p. 351-352 What is the symbolism of Chief Justice Taney’s wooden inkstand?

p. 353 In the Civil Rights Cases Justice Bradley discussed the “badge of slavery”:

Page 109 U. S. 24

The long existence of African slavery in this country gave us very distinct notions of what it was and what were its necessary incidents. Compulsory service of the slave for the benefit of the master, restraint of his movements except by the master’s will, disability to hold property, to make contracts, to have a standing in court, to be a witness against a white person, and such like burdens and incapacities were the inseparable incidents of the institution. Severer punishments for crimes were imposed on the slave than on free persons guilty of the same offences. Congress, as we have seen, by the Civil Rights Bill of 1866, passed in view of the Thirteenth Amendment before the Fourteenth was adopted, undertook to wipe out these burdens and disabilities, the necessary incidents of slavery constituting its substance and visible form, and to secure to all citizens of every race and color, and without regard to previous servitude, those fundamental rights which are the essence of civil freedom, namely, the same right to make and enforce contracts, to sue, be parties, give evidence, and to inherit, purchase, lease, sell and convey property as is enjoyed by white citizens. Whether this legislation was fully authorized by the Thirteenth Amendment alone, without the support which it afterward received from the Fourteenth Amendment, after the adoption of which it was reenacted with some additions, it is not necessary to inquire. It is referred to for the purpose of showing that, at that time (in 1866), Congress did not assume, under the authority given by the Thirteenth Amendment, to adjust what may be called the social rights of men and races in the community, but only to declare and vindicate those fundamental rights which appertain to the essence of citizenship, and the enjoyment or deprivation of which constitutes the essential distinction between freedom and slavery.

Page 109 U. S. 23

p. 354 In his dissent Harlan explains the meaning of freedom – the same rights as the white population has enjoyed; and not as an empty vessel.

“It is not the words of the law, but the internal sense of it that makes the law; the letter of the law is the body; the sense and reason of the law is the soul.”

p. 355-56 Any Pennsylvanian remarks to Harlan’s dissent?

p. 357. What was Douglas’ essay “Civil Rights and Justice Harlan” about?

p. 358-363 What was the role of the National Convention of Colored Men? Who was Louis Martinet? How do you feel reading Douglas’ words “the color line is not the creation of colored people” in light of ignorant statements by famous people today, such as Whoopy Goldberg’s “I know race – I can see it” (not real quote)

p. 364 What is the educational role of Louisiana Standard as explained by the author?

p. 365-371 What is the saga of Councill and the Interstate Commerce Commission?

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Prompts for 2/1

pp. 329-333 What is A Fool’s Errand about?

pp. 334-36 What was Albion’s advice to President Garfield? What did he see as important as freedom and justice?

pp. 338-9. What did Albion mean by “Beware the Hayes fallacy.”

p. 340-1 The North had reaped immense profits from slave labor, Albion said. How do you feel about that statement? What can you say in favor or against that statement?

p. 342-44. What was the Jubilee Singers’ experience on tour?

p. 344-9. How did Justice Harlan become the only hope of the colored men of the nation?

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Prompts for Jan 25, 2022 Book Club Discussion

p. 308-10 What was the impression the former president of the Confederacy had of US District Judge Henry B. Brown?

p. 311. What was the “oppressive” bill Davey, a British Southerner was referring to?

p. 312. What legal anarchy was referencing HBB?

p. 313-316 Albion Turgee was a Northerner in North Carolina. Why did he oppose Sumner’s Bill?

p. 317-320. Albion saw the Reconstruction as a failure. Why? What method did he promote?

p. 321-27 What happened to Albion’s political aspirations?

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Reading/Discussion Prompts – January 11, 2022

p. 261: Why was William Nichols waiting for the Car 132 of the New Orleans’ City Railroad Company?

p. 262 Why and how was the Tribune campaigning against “star cars”?

p. 263 What does the author mean when he writes “Could les gens de couleur be trusted as allies”?

p. 264 What unresolved question about the Civil Rights Act of 1866 was sought to be solved in Recorder Louis Gastinel’s courtroom on April 30?

p. 265 How did the case of William Nichols and that of Joseph Guillaume resemble?

p. 266 – The author describes entertainment in New Orleans. What is striking to you from his description?

p. 267 What happened along a Mardi Gras route, on both sides of Rampart near Congo Square, early May?

p. 268 What was the Railroad Company’s response to the preceding day’s riotous activity?

p. 269 How do you feel about Ogledon’s decision about private individuals able to make any rule “they deemed proper”?

p. 270 What was Mary Miles’ case about? Where was her case heard?

p. 271- 272. What was the case Derry v. Lowry about?

p. 273-274 What is your opinion about stare decisis as it transpires in the Mary Miles case?

p. 274- 275 What is your opinion about the “vexed subject of social equality” as discussed at the 1868 Louisiana Constitutional Convention?

p. 276 Is banning denigrating and humiliating social mores tantamount to mandating “social equality”?

p. 277-278 Explain the content of Article 13.

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Talking points Nov. 17

p 237-8 What did Albion mean by “I am going to find out if North Carolina is our future”?

p. 239-40 US military, uncomfortably balanced between the roles of helping and that of occupying protectorate. No masters. No slaves. An abundance of animosity, accompanied by alarming episodes of brutality toward white and liberated slaves. What was the position of governor Holden on carpet beggars and “the weaker race”?

p. 241-44 Is there a parallel between Emma and Albion’s relationship and that between the white Northerner migrants and the black North Carolina residents?

p.44-46 What was Albion’s idea about how the Freedmen’s Bureau was supposed to work?

p. 247-8 What did the North Carolina legislature’s first post war session achieve?

249-50 What was Albion’s political debut ? His political speech at Coble’s Schoolhoue.

250-254 What happened to Albion in the North?

255-56 What was the outcome of the Conference?

257-58. How did he feel about working on the commission to rewrite North Carolina’s entire civil code?

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Proposed talking points / Wed. Nov. 10

p.215/17: Even rich people suffer losses in wars. Humanizing Brown while presenting him reading Southern History of the War.

The lost cause; a new southern history of the war of the Confederates
AuthorPollard, Edward Alfred, 1831-1872
PublishedNew York, E. B. Treat & co., Baltimore, Md., L. T. Palmer & co.; [etc., etc.] 1866.

p. 218/20: Understanding Republicanism through Crapo’s eyes

p. 221/22 Charles Sumner and the duel between the Nation and the States

p. 223/4 The defeat of the Michigan reconstruction constitution. The role of the press.

p. 225 The impact of inheritance.

p. 226 The Republican nomination of Ulysses S. Grant

p. 227/30 Circuit Judge Brown

p. 231/32 Failed bid for federal judgship

p. 232-35 Failed political career. Saratoga Springs in the near future

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Talking Points Nov. 3

https://duqlawblogs.org/duqlawbookclub/wp-content/uploads/2021/11/GetPDF.pdf

 Volume: 1866   Issue: 04/28   Page Range: 0269ad-0269ad 

OUTSIDE OF THE GALLERIES OF THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES DURING THE PASSAGE OF THE CIVIL RIGHTS BILL.

p. 193 Harlan, like his father, regarded this institution with ambivalence verging on distaste. What is? (expressing my lack of ambivalence about Harlan’s)

p. 194. How did Harlan explain his 1864 support for the Democratic candidate to the presidency?

p. 195. What was Harlan’s paramount support for the cause of the Union?

p. 196. How did Harlan explain his military resignation within a month after Lincoln’s Emancipation Proclamation?

p. 197. For whom did Harlan have “real affection” – in the words of his lovely wife Mallie (probably she shared the same affection as her husband).

p. 198. Emancipating the family slaves could have been an outcome – as the author points out, but not for Harlan.

p. 199. For any of us a purse, a piece of furniture, clothes, or why not a car or a house would be a “most fortunate purchase,” but not for Mallie. What was she fondly remembered as a most fortunate purchase towards the end of the Civil War?

p. 200/6 Who is Palmer, and how do you explain that though on the side of progress, he ended up with a ruined military career, while Harlan’s star continued to rise?

p. 205 George Robertson, a former law professor and now a member of the judiciary held that Palmer’s actions having taken place before the Thirteenth Amendment remained illegal. Is that how constitutional amendments ought to be applied?

p. 207/210 What was remarkable about the Bristow/Harlan partnership?

p.211/13 What helped Harlan’s Republican conversion? What type of conversion was it, anyway? “equal before the law,” but “social equality can never exist between the two races in Kentucky.”

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Talking Points 10/27

This political cartoon Johnson stitching together the globe while Lincoln supports it with a rail. The caption reads "The Rail Splitter at work repairing the Union." Johnson says, "Take it quietly Uncle Abe and I will draw it closer than ever!" Lincoln says, "A few more stitches Andy and the good old Union will be mended!"

http://www.americanyawp.com/text/15-reconstruction/

Reconstruction: Change and Continuity in Daily Life
Reconstruction: Change and Continuity in Daily Life
https://www.crt.state.la.us/louisiana-state-museum/online-exhibits/the-cabildo/reconstruction-change-and-continuity-in-daily-life/index

p. 175-76 How and when would whites and blacks “appeared to be acting in concert” in New Orleans?

p. 177 What plan did Abraham Lincoln have for Louisiana?

p. 178 Who was the white creole, Anthony Fernandez?

p. 179 Lincoln excluded12 parishes from Union control, including New Orleans. What was his thinking?

p. 179/80. What happened when Lincoln divided Louisiana?

p. 181. “We had never been slaves. We had waited long enough.” What was Boisdore referring to?

p. 182. Did the Union Association accept free people of color as partners?

p. 183. We finally learn about the birth of Homere Patris Plessy, who as a young man would be known as Homer.

p. 184. Why didn’t the Reconstruction plan start in Louisiana?

p. 185 Why was this headline unprecedented: “Free Colored Men Admitted to Seats”?

p. 185-6 What did the 10 percent solution mean? Why was it a giant step back for the black population?

p. 187. How do you understand this statement: “When the national existence is at stake, and the liberties of the people in peril, faction is treason.” What does this speech remind you of?

p. 188. Do you think that Lincoln was just, moral, or politically expedient when he refused to consider the political request of the Louisiana representatives?

p. 189. What was Lincoln’s advice to the governor about defining the elective franchise?

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Talking points October 20

p. 153-55 What motivated Albion to write to Emma “I am glad you are not my wife, for my perplexities would be terribly increased.”

p. 155/56 Why do you think he mentioned the erection of a monarchy of limited powers to Emma?

p. 157-162. What can we understand of his dream about the “war fever” case?

p. 158. Albion did not believe God designed and created women merely for child bearing. Shouldn’t that belief induce abolitionist-related beliefs?

p. 159. What was the Oberlin case about?

p. 160 Politically, what was the main difference between Emma and Albion?

p.160-65. How do you explain Albion’s accepting a soldier’s destiny?

p. 165-68. What was the explanation and implications of the hasty retreat from Bull Run? What happened to Albion?

p. 169-71. When did Albion come to the conclusion that slavery had to end?

p. 171. Explain Albion’s graduation.

p. 172. What precipitated Albion and Emma’s marriage?

p. 172. “An American citizen of African descent.” explain.